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Sue's avatar

I got a little bit of a jumpstart on the book this week – I'm really excited to be reading a non-fiction book with this group, and this one in particular against the backdrop of an election year (by design, of course – great idea, Jeremy!)

Several things in the introduction caught my attention. Here are just a couple:

-- The fact that "As a young man, Lincoln worried that the 'field of glory' had been harvested by the founding fathers, that nothing had been left for his generation but modest ambitions". (Ha!) "Without the march of events that led to the Civil War, Lincoln still would have been a good man, but most likely never would have been publicly recognized as a great man." Not exactly a revelation, but always frustrating to think that such dramatic events are required in order to recognize greatness in a person.

-- Goodwin's distinction between melancholy and depression. Goodwin disputes the idea that Lincoln suffered from clinical depression. Melancholy, she says, is not an illness but an "aspect of one's nature" which "has been recognized by artists and writers for centuries as a potential source of creativity and achievement." As someone who works in a creative field, I've often pondered that "tortured artist" theory, wondered how much validity there is to that theory vs. how much it's a way for us to explain away the darker sides of our idols, in whom we don't necessarily care to see flaws. I'm curious to see how melancholy comes into play in Goodwin's view of Lincoln.

Can't wait to continue reading and see what discussions this book prompts for us!

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Jill's avatar

DKG is a brilliant storyteller telling the story of another brilliant storyteller. How cool is that?! Her stories are so deeply thought out, her perspectives unique, and her prose simply beautiful. She just seems more relatable than many historians. I think it was after this book was released that she was carried onto the stage of one of the late-night shows by a bunch of hunky guys dressed as Lincolns. I saw that and just thought, "This lady is pretty cool." She writes about deep things but can also laugh at herself. There was a documentary about her and her husband that showed bookshelves loaded with books in every room of their house. And they had read so very many of them. So. Dang. Cool. This is going to be a wonderful adventure.

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